Vortex Vs Nexus Mod Manager
If you have any questions about how to use Vortex, feel free to ask here. I'm happy to answer as much as I'm able to. Gopher is already working on a video tutorial set which looks really good - I believe he is going to time its launch with the full release, so if you don't have Vortex yet and you're intimidated by learning new things, don't fear! He will hold your hand through itLink:Looking forward to see tutorials on the new mod managers, hopefully soon!Edit: Should probally have read the article first and not got to excited about it all. Seem the limited is for the fact they just letting around 1,000 user get their hands on the Vortex, then for others on the week starting the 12th of February or thereabouts. Edited January 31, 2018 by Beuwolf. Is this new manager by the people who created NMM?The Nexus Vortex Team is composed of programmers from Nexus and from Mod Organizer.
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The best of both worlds.To add to the above. Tannin42, who made Mod Organizer and started making Mod Organizer 2 was recruited to Nexus to be the lead designer for Vortex.I not really seen Vortex in action yet, part from the above YouTube clip, but Tannin seem to done things a bit different then how it was before and getting a bit flak from users about it. Mostly seem to be concerning how to arrange the mod order. Before you could easily 'Drag and Drop' your mods, now that's not an option really but it still can be done through 2 clicks (if I understand what I been reading right) but people is finding that, tedious I think the word is, and are moaning about it.
Guess we'll see how things goes, after all it's only been out a couple days for these first 1,000 users. Maybe might be willing to shed some more light on it if he has time, if not I am sure we find out once he done with tutorials of Vortex and we can see better.Personally I might download it once it is publicly available but probably wont really use it until Gophers Tutorials is out and can get bit better insight in how things suppose to work. Well, all depending on how intuitive it is to work with the Vortex of course. To add to the above.
Tannin42, who made Mod Organizer and started making Mod Organizer 2 was recruited to Nexus to be the lead designer for Vortex.I not really seen Vortex in action yet, part from the above YouTube clip, but Tannin seem to done things a bit different then how it was before and getting a bit flak from users about it. Mostly seem to be concerning how to arrange the mod order. Before you could easily 'Drag and Drop' your mods, now that's not an option really but it still can be done through 2 clicks (if I understand what I been reading right) but people is finding that, tedious I think the word is, and are moaning about it. Guess we'll see how things goes, after all it's only been out a couple days for these first 1,000 users. Maybe might be willing to shed some more light on it if he has time, if not I am sure we find out once he done with tutorials of Vortex and we can see better.Personally I might download it once it is publicly available but probably wont really use it until Gophers Tutorials is out and can get bit better insight in how things suppose to work. Well, all depending on how intuitive it is to work with the Vortex of course.I've been anxiously following along too, every shred I can find. Missed getting in on the alpha.
I really like the new approach. Like others, my first reaction was negative, but after thinking about it, i think it's going to be a much better system, more productive, and less fiddly.
I think a lot of us are used to micro managing and take pride in our painstakingly crafted modded games. It's a big change, but one for the better, once people get their heads around it. I wish Gopher and others would go ahead and release First Impression and general intro vids ahead of the general release to help people understand and maybe, maybe curb some of the inevitable fallout from people facing the coming change. The negativeness on NexusMods is disheartening. Really looking forward to tutorials, and the coming playthrough.Found another vid with a bit more info. I've been anxiously following along too, every shred I can find. Missed getting in on the alpha. I really like the new approach.
Like others, my first reaction was negative, but after thinking about it, i think it's going to be a much better system, more productive, and less fiddly. I think a lot of us are used to micro managing and take pride in our painstakingly crafted modded games. It's a big change, but one for the better, once people get their heads around it.
I wish Gopher and others would go ahead and release First Impression and general intro vids ahead of the general release to help people understand and maybe, maybe curb some of the inevitable fallout from people facing the coming change. The negativeness on NexusMods is disheartening. Really looking forward to tutorials, and the coming playthrough.Found another vid with a bit more info. I saw the above YouTube video but the user did jump the gun a little I think.
First the title with the all caps on 'NEED', then not far in he admit he only worked with the program for 3 hours. Bit later there is a red warning message and his comment is along the lines.You can ignore this, this is just some of the stuff I've not worked out'. Now, and this is a personal opinion, with a title like that you really should know a bit more about the program you showing off. It was released on the 31th of January, so been out for 5 days now.
Even with work you could easily put in at least 10 hours if not more to learn the program and had a bit more understanding about it. BUT, as I said, personal opinion.Yeah it would be great if Gopher could manage get a First Impression video out sometimes next week, before the full release of the software.
Then again, it still in Alpha state even after the full release on the 12th of February, or thereabouts. I do hope Gopher, and others, are fiddling around with it and something will come, just time will tell I guess.On a personal note, I actually now think I be downloading it sooner then later and fiddle around with it myself, even if there is no Tutorials out about the Manager yet, just for fun and giggles. Ohhh and see what all the fuss is about really, over at Nexus Mod Forums. Personally I might download it once it is publicly available but probably wont really use it until Gophers Tutorials is out and can get bit better insight in how things suppose to work. Well, all depending on how intuitive it is to work with the Vortex of course.This is what I will do as well. I studied the initial explanation of how to do things but they are muddy. Gopher is so good at explaining things in comprehensive detail.
And so clear that it is impossible to not understand. Maybe I am exaggerating a bit.But Gopher is good. How do you find out how programming is going. Well look at the errors page.So that is what I did.
They are fixing typical errors having to do with unresolved 'IFs'. For example, making the program do certain things when there is an error. For the most part, it looks as though the basic program works fine. It is these exception programming errors that are being worked on.Considering the way things are progressing Gopher could not be actually filming much at this point because changes to this error logic may change basic interface features. Quite often resolving a small error reveals something that needs a lot of work. Other times solving a problem may make something else obsolete.
That is the nature of Alpha design.I suspect Gopher has his hands full just testing functionality. How do you find out how programming is going. Well look at the errors page.So that is what I did.
They are fixing typical errors having to do with unresolved 'IFs'. For example, making the program do certain things when there is an error. For the most part, it looks as though the basic program works fine.
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It is these exception programming errors that are being worked on.Considering the way things are progressing Gopher could not be actually filming much at this point because changes to this error logic may change basic interface features. Quite often resolving a small error reveals something that needs a lot of work. Other times solving a problem may make something else obsolete. That is the nature of Alpha design.I suspect Gopher has his hands full just testing functionality.Having the mentality of a console gamer who loves playing games on his gamingPC I will wait for Gophers how to video before switching to this new manager. I hope Nexus gives us the option to stay with the old for a while. Been reading through the comments over at Nexus and this 'drag and drop' function from MO quiet a few seem to be missing in Vortex, although others are saying it is possible, just done a different way. In any case, quiet a bit of chatter about the manager over there.Also saw this post that cracked me up when I read it:Link to the thread itself =Does anyone know if have had enough time to look through the software or to busy??
Would be really great if he would be able to post a 'my thoughts' before the 12th of February or even a Tutorial. Well, just my own personal thought but still. Would at least be nice to know a little about his thoughts about the Vortex. Been reading through the comments over at Nexus and this 'drag and drop' function from MO quiet a few seem to be missing in Vortex, although others are saying it is possible, just done a different way. In any case, quiet a bit of chatter about the manager over there.Also saw this post that cracked me up when I read it:Link to the thread itself =Does anyone know if have had enough time to look through the software or to busy?? Would be really great if he would be able to post a 'my thoughts' before the 12th of February or even a Tutorial.
Well, just my own personal thought but still. Would at least be nice to know a little about his thoughts about the Vortex.Vortex uses a rule based approach. It detects conflicts and ask you what to do. You then create a rule that says this mod always comes before the other mod or vice versa. While some drag and drop positioning is sort of available (as a way to create rules) it's not meant to allow users to put every single one of their mods in a specific spot, like Mod Organizer does. That's what the people who are upset want.
They are used to manually ordering and positioning all of their mods just they way they want. They like micro managing and I think there's a sense of pride that comes from crafting a modded game with hundreds of mods all placed just so and working as you envision. I know that's been the case for me. But, when you try to shoehorn that old way of modding on to the new Vortex manager, the process grinds. It don't fit.
They are having trouble adjusting to a new way.IMO, the new rule based approach is far superior, after thinking about for a while. In fact it sort of matches my mental process better.
I recently started using XMind to map out my mods and I think that is part of why it started to make sense for me. (small sample attached) When I'm drawing it out, what I'm doing is basically defining relationships (as child nodes, sometimes relationship lines) and many of those relationships can be defined directly now in Vortex in the form of rules. Once you create the rules between two conflicting mods, you never have to think about it again.
Whereas if you are manually ordering your list, you have to constantly be aware of the relationships between all the mods involved.I also think it offers a lot of promise for future enhancement. I'm hoping, but it has never been mentioned or hinted at, but I'm hoping it will eventually morph in to a full package management system where we never have to worry about any of the details. Just install a mod and it installs any dependencies, patches, asks if the user if there are alternate or optional features, etc. But that's just wishful thinking at this point. I do think the rule-base approach is a good and required first step in that direction.I do worry about peoples first impressions and expectations. I think it's going to be a shock for new users, being so different.
That's why I wish and others would get out ahead of launch (barring any NDAs) to tame peoples expectations and let them know what's coming. It's easier to prepare ahead than to change peoples minds after. And if the comments on the Nexus news page and the Vortex forums is an indicator there are going to be some loud complaints and fury coming.I also cracked up at that post by DarkOne this morning. It was perfect!I know Gopher's been working with Vortex since well ahead of his update video on 2018-01-21, where he alluded to it. He mentioned it more specifically in his video update today,.
Vortex uses a rule based approach. It detects conflicts and ask you what to do. You then create a rule that says this mod always comes before the other mod or vice versa. While some drag and drop positioning is sort of available (as a way to create rules) it's not meant to allow users to put every single one of their mods in a specific spot, like Mod Organizer does.
That's what the people who are upset want. They are used to manually ordering and positioning all of their mods just they way they want. They like micro managing and I think there's a sense of pride that comes from crafting a modded game with hundreds of mods all placed just so and working as you envision.
I know that's been the case for me. But, when you try to shoehorn that old way of modding on to the new Vortex manager, the process grinds. It don't fit. They are having trouble adjusting to a new way.IMO, the new rule based approach is far superior, after thinking about for a while. In fact it sort of matches my mental process better. I recently started using XMind to map out my mods and I think that is part of why it started to make sense for me.
(small sample attached) When I'm drawing it out, what I'm doing is basically defining relationships (as child nodes, sometimes relationship lines) and many of those relationships can be defined directly now in Vortex in the form of rules. Once you create the rules between two conflicting mods, you never have to think about it again. Whereas if you are manually ordering your list, you have to constantly be aware of the relationships between all the mods involved.I also think it offers a lot of promise for future enhancement. I'm hoping, but it has never been mentioned or hinted at, but I'm hoping it will eventually morph in to a full package management system where we never have to worry about any of the details. Just install a mod and it installs any dependencies, patches, asks if the user if there are alternate or optional features, etc. But that's just wishful thinking at this point.
I do think the rule-base approach is a good and required first step in that direction.I do worry about peoples first impressions and expectations. I think it's going to be a shock for new users, being so different. That's why I wish and others would get out ahead of launch (barring any NDAs) to tame peoples expectations and let them know what's coming. It's easier to prepare ahead than to change peoples minds after. And if the comments on the Nexus news page and the Vortex forums is an indicator there are going to be some loud complaints and fury coming.I also cracked up at that post by DarkOne this morning.
It was perfect!I know Gopher's been working with Vortex since well ahead of his update video on 2018-01-21, where he alluded to it. He mentioned it more specifically in his video update today,.That's pretty good summery and yes, I thought about peoples first impression and expectations as well. Considering how well some 'experienced' modders is taking things the average users might have more trouble getting to grasp things. I do hope or other people that do tutorials have something up before it is released.
It would help out a bit I think.You not thought of posting the above, or in similar terms, on the Nexus Forum?? Well, for all I know you might already have, since no clue what your username is there. So far I have installed a couple a of mods but can't run Skyrim because it can't find my DLCs. I think I am pointing it to the wrong locations or something.Thanks Cry, I will have a look.
From what you’ve used is it worth switching from say NMM to vortex, because to be honest I have never had a problem with NMM, and if it is still being supported I can’t see why I would change over.Unless vortex is going to completely replace NMM and NMM will no longer be updated.Edited February 16, 2018 by LoreAbidingCitizen. Thanks Cry, I will have a look. From what you’ve used is it worth switching from say NMM to vortex, because to be honest I have never had a problem with NMM, and if it is still being supported I can’t see why I would change over.I am only doing this as a test. Eventually NMM will be defunct and everyone will have to use Vortex so I am preparing. BTW I figured out want I was doing wrong. The install folder has to be an empty folder just for vortex to use. However, I have not been able to install my DLCs properly.
I think in order to install the DLCs you have to redownload them. Got to admit that playing Kingdom Come Deliverance now have put Vortex on the afterburner.
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Can't see me start modding SSE while playing it and so far enjoying it massively so until I done or get bored I wont be even downloading it yet. But, glad it is finally out and hopefully it will make modding a better experience!If I could figure it out and get the DLCs to register I would be greatly impressed. It has many really nice features. It is very different though and will take some time.
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And a tutorial from Gopher. To get used to it.
If I could figure it out and get the DLCs to register I would be greatly impressed. It has many really nice features. It is very different though and will take some time. And a tutorial from Gopher.
To get used to it.Which version of Skyrim? Does Steam show that the DLC are installed? What is your skyrim directory? Do you see them in your Skyrim data directory? Do they still show up on your old mod manager? What do you see in the PLUGINS page on Vortex?
(screenshot?) If you navigate to%APPDATA%Vortex (copy that directory, tap Windows key, Ctrl+V, press enter) in File Explorer, and then navigate through the skyrim or skyrimse folder, do they show in your plugins.txt file?Sorry for so many questions, but I'm probably still forgetting some. If you can't track it down it might be worth posting on the Feedback forum for more direct support:Edited February 16, 2018 by Randy W.